The dealership have road tested two other F10's and compared it with mine. Could it be the brakes are binding? Change ). My car has 97000Km and I am not quite sure if I need the transfer case actuator replaced or the big metal box which attached to it...???? Very helpful ! So here is what I did right after I posted the question. This is straight out of the motor, bright green lubricant appears to have never been used/worn by the worm gear. The tech took me out to a parking lot and all he did while going straight is turn the wheel and press the brake and it makes a pop. BMW X5 - Creaking noise when turning the steering wheel - Escondido, California. This has been happening on and off for 6-8 months. After reading about this, I ordered the gear for $10 in Amazon and had my mechanic install it for $50. Can it be the motor? V. BMW north America). ( Log Out /  Got everything put back together problem solved, indicator dash lights went out. Hello Engineers, experiencers and genuises. Car detailing is very different from car washing. I just did my second one, this time on my aunt's 2007 X3 ... same exact problem at right around 80k miles. Worn transfer case actuator gear from another angle, top portion totally worn concave. And, as suspension systems have gotten more complex with many more points of potential failure, making thorough repairs means taking the necessary steps to get a good outcome. Got grease. Followers 1. I have a popping noise when i turn the wheel and step on the brakes while in reverse or going forward. I replaced the gear and reinstalled the part and it is working great. My first thought is to take it all back off and flip that black piece back the way it goes, however do you think I have already damaged the actuator motor and I'm just screwed here? Aloha. Watline Noel from Sunrise, Florida on January 12, 2015: Anybody know anybody in fort lauderdale area that can install the motor gear for me. A few hours later the lights turned off. i replace the part and the light still on what can i do next. Thanks Johnny. See the photos. Advertisement. issue 99% of the time. If that is present then replacing the gear should fix the problem. I have had a problem with sounds coming from the gear area whilst taking off. When starting the car you about a second after you start the car you should be able to hear the motor actuate. Dealer wanted almost 4200 to replace transfer case! The hub and bearing are a one piece item so not scraping on anything. Most of the challenges of noise diagnosis and repair come from misunderstanding the customer’s complaint. If you have noise from transfer box please try the oil change first. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. ANY IDEAS??? Prob drove 5-10 miles. Is that a true statement????? Recommended Posts. It is amazingly fun to drive and the fuel economy is a wonderful added bonus. Thanks for the quick response. I saved myself big time money and just wanted to spread the knowledge. Jump to Latest Follow 21 - 38 of 38 Posts. I followed your videos step by step, however when I was removing the motor from the actuator I didn't get the black plastic piece off with it and had to slide it back on. Am I mistaking?!?! Will be working with him again! johnnyvest (author) from Salt Lake City on June 13, 2015: @Greg Dockstader: The lights should go off on their own, at least they did in both cars that I have done this procedure for. The following tips will help you avoid the lifter ticking noise in your BMW. my car model is 2008 X5 93210 miles. The mechanic replaced the damage gear and the locking went away, am i doing any damage driving with the damaged gear still in place. If your gear is not very visibly worn as in the photos above then that may not be the issue. This article is for informational purposes only and the reader assumes all responsibility for attempting to fix without professional assistance. My question is what's gonna happen if it goes totally out on trip. Can I ask have you had your X1 repaired and what the problem was please. Have a great weekend. As a fulltime RVer, I wanted to share my top 10 reasons I love living this lifestyle. Very knowledgeable and friendly. was thinking i would pull it off and look at the gear before it gets to cold. Can anyone help ive got a 2011 x3 and i cant find New Transfer Case Actuator Motor Reinforced Carbon Fiber Gear, Very good the videos you have any solution for worm gear de tc Xdrive 328ix 2008, 2006 bmw525xi all wheel drive isn't working only the rear wheels for working do I need a transmission. … I've rotated my tires religiously and still had it. The N52 engine is no longer used in BMW vehicles because of a few glitches that drivers began to notice, including the infamous lifter ticking noise. Is there a way to open the fins though to view the condenser? Still waiting to hear. 1; 2; First 2 of 2 Go to page . There is a lot of discussion in various forums about how this gear does not ever seem to turn all the way around and you can fix it by simply rotating the gear to the unused portion (a potential free fix). Just picked up my X1 Xdrive from the garage. My 4x4 light is on most of the time, sometimes on start up and other times after going over a bump. The noise ceases when the brakes are applied. Is there any way to PM on this forum? No clicking. Still no clicking, and the car seems to drive fine. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Share this post. Everything went well and back together as easily as it came apart except for pulling the peened cover plate to access the gear. Sometimes your BMW will not start when it is cold, lights and radio may work, but the engine still doesn't start. If you hear the buzz, I'd say the motor is still working and activating and it might just be the gear. Fadi was on time. I was like WTF now!! My 2007 X3 has been doing this for some weeks (but driving fine) and the BMW dealership here in Cape Town, South Africa, has quoted me the equivalent of $2700 to simply "replace" the transfer box, after importing a new one from Germany. This Service Information bulletin supersedes Service Measure M31 200 05 dated April 2005. That's what it sounds like when the gear is in working order ... when stripped that is what made the loud clicking sound (the guy in the video has audio of that). Do not compromise safety just because your car can still move normally. BMW Mechanic: Kevin, BMW Mechanic replied 10 months ago. Some basic tips would be: This article is accurate and true to the best of the author’s knowledge. 94k miles. I asked if the gear is worn and he said no, the gear is fine. If you fail to do so, at least replace the CV joint immediately once you hear a clicking noise while turning the car. Everything is running fine, no abnormal noise when cornering like Fernando described. Jul 7, 2014 #1. Question,,,,does the wheel have to be turned to make this popping noise,,,,,ok we did have a clicking noise from the front brake pads moving back and forth when go from drive and then to reverse the brake pads would shift and make a clicking noise,,,,,not a popping noise,,,,,the popping noise could be coming from a wheel bearing with the wheels turned and a load on them,,,,,or its coming from a suspension component ,,,,,I hope this helps. Show More. Related Posts . I t cost two diagnostic test and all the parts plus labour but no improve. Had the same problem with my 2006 X3 ordered the gear took it to my service center paid for 3 hours labor problem solved. Actuator and slipping/hesitation on June 21, 2016: I did gears months ago. The Bullnose Mercedes is a real truck. I took it to the dealer and they have mentioned that the actuator or valvtronic motor is gone. I'd love to hear from X3/X5 owners with 100k+ miles that have NOT had this problem in their cars? I have a X3 from 2007 with that problem, bought the gear from AMAZON, it cost me about 65 €, and i will install it tomorrow ! If yes, how to solve? Bryant. @Mike22 I really cannot comment on the issue of reprogramming the new unit, I've never experienced that before, but it does seem that it may be necessary, see here: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=... i had my mechanic fit the new gear but unfortunately my front wheels seemed to be locking when driving away from the garage and wouldnt go away, my car makes the grinding sound on startup. Listening from the outside of the car it sounds like a quick 1/2 to 1 second long buzz. I might be describing the noise wrong it can be a clicking rather than the poping. Also can anyone recommend repair shop in tyler tx area. Unless you just really like giving the dealer all your hard earned cash at least get your hands a little dirty first. Watched a YouTube video where the guy was able to pop the plate out in about 15 seconds, the whole project took about 2-1/2 hours and 45 minutes just to get the cover plate off to access the gear! I drive a 2006 Cadillac SRX, it is having a continual clicking/thumping/clacking noise coming from the middle of the front end when braking and turning. This seems unlikely as I think that spindle is metal (if I recall correctly) and many teeth on that (or the white plastic ring in the actuator motor) would have to be stripped in order for it to fail to actuate (turn). It kind of sounds like a pop when you turn the wheel and depress the brakes. Where exactly is chase race? Ok your probably wondering what the hell is this,,,,well this is part of a repair for F10 and F01 front wheel bearing noise,,,,it’s a special grease that sometimes fixes the problem,,,,,and sometimes doesn’t,,,this is to stop a clicking noise heard from the front wheels while turn your wheels while at a stop,,,,what happens is that the wheel bearing hubs moves slightly when there is a load on it causing a clicking noise from the wheel area. Thread starter Miah23; Start date Jul 7, 2014; M. Miah23 Well-Known Member. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. 12 years of experience. Changed the gear but light are still on. That includes removal, dismantling the motor and replacing the gear, and re-installing. Now that i have fixed and replace the who front and rear supension by putting new subframes and everything its actually standing on 4 wheels once again. I have found that this is the fix almost 70% of the time and only costs around $40 in merch. F07/F10/F11 2010-2017 ; Click/Snapping Noise in reverse Sign in to follow this . Now my mechanic is actually considering reaping benefits from this workaround. When it does the low rev noise it sounds *exactly* like that F10 in my original post. The transfer case actuator motor is a small motor that is bolted on to the transfer case and can be removed and replaced (or repaired with a new internal gear). I have a 2008 X3 with 144,000 miles. Its in the shop right now, a non btw shop, so i have my doubts about them.. but i had to have this car.. 6 speed manual, and 40,000 miles!!! Once the transfer case was lowered, I was able to access and remove all the bolts. Repeat. Anyway I will just rotate the gear 180 degrees and see if it solves the problem , at least until I find a new gear. The tech said that its common for the 2012 f10 to have the popping noise and it was not the strut. For anyone else in the Pacific Northwest, Doug at Chase Race installed the gear for me, thanks Doug! BMW 5 Series. There is no way for anyone online to answer that for sure. The hardest part was really just accessing the motor and torx bolts to get them off. It was a very helpful hint. he said bmw used a different caliper and when you brake you hear the popping noise and a way to fix the issue is to replace the front brake pads even though theres plenty of life left on them. Thanks. New to all this BMW ownership lark and found something that I'm struggling with. 2020 BMW Z4 L4-2.0L Turbo: Service type Creaking noise when turning the steering wheel Inspection: Estimate $84.99: Shop/Dealer Price $96.77 - $105.61: 2009 BMW Z4 L6-3.0L: Service type Creaking noise when turning the steering wheel Inspection: Estimate $84.99: Shop/Dealer Price $105.71 - $121.25: 2015 BMW Z4 L6-3.0L Turbo I'm not sure what your problem may be, the only real clicking sound that is 100% indicative of the worn transfer case gear is a very audible clicking that lasts about 1-2 seconds that typically happens right when you turn the car on or off. Anyone with any ideas? If anyone had similar experience with BMW X1 2012 please let me know. thanks for the explanation really really great. I replaced the gear but not my X3 is acting funny. I took everything back apart, checked all the plug prongs, brush springs and brush seats on the spindle, bearings, everything appears to be fine. its been in the FORD shop 4 times since then, had a loud exhaust within 3 days of purchase, hood would not open, still in shop for that right now, needs a new cable release, and now the lights?? BMW's are revered for their performance & endurance. I mean really unless you it goes back together correctly it won't really go back together at all (meaning that the white gear fits right into the inner gears of the new black replacement gear and the metal worm fits into the grooves on the outside of it). I bought this because it was a 6 speed manual and had 40,000 miles on it.. its a 2005. i fell in love.. would love your input. F10 - Steering sounds. My vehicle has what can only be described as an "air conditioning, mouse-like squeak" when fuel is being drawn into the engine, which disappears when you take your foot off the gas and coast. Hey guys I also had this problem with my x3 2006 for a while. I drive a 2006 x3 and can't afford repairs now hope to put off for new year. Any chance you know the BMW bulletin number so I can reference that to them? Who would have thought that! It was second time to replace it. Most drivers are used to their vehicle turning without making a sound. Answered in 1 hour by: 7/9/2019. 12 years of experience. At that time i tried turning on the car again but it wouldnt turn on. Fadi was on time. 498 reviews. Any ideas how much they charge for labor to replace the gear? As soon as I started driving BAM, lights on. Furthermore, once the vehicle began to climb up in mileage, the symptoms became even more troubling and noticeable. The driveshaft splines wear where they enter the transfer case, ultimately causing both to (expensively) fail. by Jeremy. I loosened the support cross bar like it the video and pulled it down a bit (gently, it doesn't have to come down too much) and that does provide enough room to get in there. No clicking. All the lights have gone away but when I start my car the 4x4 light stays on amd i dont hear a clicking noise at all. only charged £82.20 fantastic garage and not a rip off like main BMW dealer. johnnyvest (author) from Salt Lake City on September 07, 2016: I think I removed the bolts on the cross bar on the passenger side and loosened the ones on the drivers side (but did not remove) which allowed some play to lower the transfer case and still support it at the same time. Typically this noise is more of a clicking than a knocking, and is heard when the wheels are turned for a tighter turn at lower speeds. I am female and can't do repairs myself. it's been in the garage and had a new torque converter, but still same. Bryant . We attached everything anyways and when we started the vehicle then the lights were immediately back on (they were off when we started repairs). I took it to the BMW dealer and they were going to charge me $1100 dollars to fix the problem. Do I need new bolts? Please advise. 1,309 Posts . To know more about other sounds signifying internal vehicle problems, check out why a car squeals when turning. It really is a pathetic oversight and lack of quality on BMW's part. The gear was worn as shown in the video. Could this be something major anyone? They changed the transfer box oil and took it for a long test run. I see you're in SLC area, I live in Riverton. Plastidip is an affordable way to change the color of your car and wheels, while simultaneously protecting the finish underneath. 8 Reasons Your Car Makes Creaking Noise When Turning. Again I'm not 100% sure on this but my experience was that driving it did not adversely affect it. The root cause was gap between front wheel HUB collar screw and knuckle pass through hole. The dealer initally said it was a faulty strut and replaced the whole front driver side under cpo warranty. There's no other cases reported on BMW's data base. Same intermittent lights; the regular 4x4 and the occasional 3 lights of death. Thanks everyone/johnnyvest for this post. You can order a new gear easily on Amazon with the provided link. Click Here to Read More. It can be a tricky little SOB though. Discussion Starter • #1 • Feb 15, 2011. I recently crashed my 2003 BMW 330ci my drivers side ended up slamming into a sidewalk so my wheel ended up bent in! I am hoping to get some advice from the pros here. This is mostly 1 in 4/5 times that I move backwards fast. Click/Snapping Noise in reverse . Then I saw it could be in the side of the hub, needs to be taken apart and sanded and re installed Anyone else delt with this? Recently I noticed a clicking noise when turning the wheels mainly when reversing. You can see from my photos however, that it indeed does not look like one side of the gear that still has the light green lubricant on it was ever touched or used by the worm gear,so take that for whatever it's worth. johnnyvest (author) from Salt Lake City on April 17, 2015: Hello @Samuel Chen! Just curious if anyone that reads this will tell me that everything I have loved about the X3, I could possibly find in another make/model. A basic knowledge on the electronic fuel injection system eliminates the guesswork in the calibration of LPG-powered cars. You can hear it inside and outside the vehicle. Do you think because that black piece is upside down it would cause them to come on? In many cases with a worn gear the lights would go on and off after stopping then driving a bit. How concerned should I be? The Transfer Case Actuator Motor gear has excellently worked for me on X3 here in Kenya. It shakes the ground and carves up the roads. Still could not get the gear to rotate after putting the gears back together. Request Bryant. Its kind of annoying now when i park in my garage theres a loud poping noise while turning the wheel and stepping on the brake to park or moving forward at a slow speed. johnnyvest (author) from Salt Lake City on December 14, 2014: Hello @B Paul ... it's difficult to say how safe the car is to drive. My wheels make a clicking noise when I'm turning and when accelerating. Bryant . Is there someone who is having same problem? I change the rear both sensor, brake pad and break sensor, sensor ring and transfer case gear but still abs, brake and 4x4 coming on and off did not make any difference. I can't really say why the lights would not be going off. The noises could be caused by insufficient lubrication of the steering gear pinion shaft seal. Now after 5 months, the vibrations and the lights are back. That's actually a pretty decent estimate if they're replacing the motor all together, my local dealer has a $900 price for the new actuator motor, just slightly more than what you can get online. Show Less. Would not reattaching the clips all the way cause the lights to come on? The lights did not turn off. Prev. By The Situation, August 5, 2019 in F07/F10/F11 2010-2017. By reading your post, I knew more than most mechanics here who always advise well off people to by new BMW actuator when they see the symptoms. BMW has changed that fix a couple of times,,,,sometimes we still see the car come back after the repair with the same problem,,,,lol. But after the fix the noise is still there. 1; 2; Next. Off-Topic E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013) E39 (1997 - 2003) E46 (1999 - 2006 ) E36 (1991 - 1999) … To know more about other sounds signifying internal vehicle problems, check out why a car squeals when turning. A class action lawsuit has been filed in new jersey (chris williams, et. But I am sure the one I have just rotated will do another 100,000km with no issue. Took it to a local guy to fix instead. Only thing is the ABS, brake, and 4X4 lights are still on. F10 - Steering sounds. So I think my issue might be what your thread is about. I have a same problem as you describe, the brake light is red, AWD ABS EBV 4x4 are all yellow. johnnyvest (author) from Salt Lake City on August 14, 2014: I keep saying that every one of us that has done this gear replacement needs to hang the old worn gear from our mirrors as our own "rite of passage" fuzzy dice because make no mistake, EVERY single one of these X series cars will have this problem and need it to be fixed most likely before 100k miles. I just bought new front hub/bearings for my 2011 550i. As the Skoda pulls away at the junction, there's a strange sort of clicking noise coming from the front area of my car. have you had your x1 repaired and what was broken on your x1. Hi Johnnyvest, thanks for your response and advise. I have this problem on my 2008 BMW 330xd : all lights on + that noise. Are you experiencing the symptoms exactly as described in this article? Btw. I assume this was when the wheels were slipping. If you're thinking of buying a classic VW Beetle, you need to know a few things beforehand. Brah, you saved me big $ on repairs for my 2007 x3. Thus, the American Muscle Car was born. its coming from left driver side. Designing was very competitive, and, through hot-rodding, engines and horsepower increased dramatically. Photo 1: There are a lot of potential contact points here. I would like to add that I never heard the "clicking" sound, I only had the light trifecta. Learn how your comment data is processed. All 3 indicator lights have been on in my 2007 X3 for approximately a little over a week and I have been still driving it daily as I have no other form of transportation. 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