Tom Witt (Southwestern Ohio) Original Owner: 2004 Honda Odyssey EX , Silver, 204k miles, with blown transmission 06-FEB-2016. Both low and high beam headlamp-based DRLs are so inefficient given the, power input and functional output that using them is very much akin to, opening the fridge door, pulling up a chair and using the fridge light to, read a book. This 2003 Honda Accord came in with the complaint that the driver’s headlight bulb keeps blowing. Not Mitch, but . > Is there a better solution that will improve the lighting output and, Both at the same time? > I belong to a BMW motorcycle web site (bmwst.com). products of the big three makers (Osram-Sylvania, Philips-Narva, Tungsram-GE). Their focus is on safety-related issues. Honda Generations Where This Problem Happens, investigating a potential class-action lawsuit on behalf of owners of Honda Accord vehicles (model years 2016-18). Each manufacturer's product in each category is slightly, different but not significantly so. How often are you having to replace them? Using a hologen reflector with and HID will causes a scattered beam pattern resulting in less ideal lighting for the rider/driver and worse, lots of glare for oncomming drivers. seeing = shorter bulb life. Thanks. It keeps moisture out and prevents corrosion. Heck, theoretically they might even last longer than you own or lease your car. It's easy! The most recently reported issues are listed below. _Â Many vehicle owners also report multiple headlight failures within the first few years of ownership. I bought this Honda with 226 miles and worked fine at first. Our Altima has automatic headlights that come on in low light situations, but it's not sensitive enough IMO. What follows is the email stream. > The bulbs do not expire simultaneously. We've got. And hereâs the kicker â because of the way Honda designed the headlight, if you want to replace the LEDs you need to replace the entire assembly. Dialectic grease is always good to put in the bulb-socket before installing the new bulb (don't get it on the bulb). So the impact of 0.15 HP is very very small... around 1%. The problem is not the bulbs it's the socket. But the moment your odometer hits 36,001 miles, Honda doesnât appear to be in the mood for any âcharitable repairs.â Consider that theyâve sold over 830,000 of the Accords in the US alone[1], and that many of those have probably needed warranty headlight repairs. Let's see about narrowing. The headlight assembly is 100% covered by Hondaâs standard 3 year / 36,000 mile warranty and owners generally report the warranty experience is smooth sailing with no paper trails or negotiating needed. See, for example VW Passat since 2001.5, any of the recent Mercedes models with, polyellipsoidal halogen low beams, etc. > fuse boxes, lighting circuits w/ relays, etc. Beam performance and lifespan are inversely, related: longer bulb life = poorer nighttime seeing. This condensed, tungsten will clean up and redeposit with sufficiently long full-voltage, operation of the high beams, but most drivers need and use their high, beams only for short periods, so the diminution of their power due to. Fed up with the need to frequently replace headlight bulbs in my Accord, I searched the web and stumbled across this website Daniel Stern Lighting. fuel consumption concern *is* scientifically valid. In particular because of it's heights combined with hte vehciles short wheelbase and stiff suspension that makes the light bounce up and down slightly on most roads. Changing you tire pressure by 0.5 psi, or driving 2-3mph slower would have a greater impact. I don't know. You can easily enable this functionality in your vehicle using a DRL-1. Please also check out the statistics and reliability analysis of the 2015 Honda Accord based on all problems reported for the 2015 Accord. (Page 1 of 4) There, is some ambiguity introduced into the front, turn signals *per se* with this implementation, but it does not appear to, be of worrisome magnitude. Should you find yourself replacing your headlight bulbs way too often, there more than likely is an underlying issue. Theyâre looking to hear from owners who have been forced to pay out-of-pocket for these repairs, and are worried theyâll probably have to do it again soon. Have the battery checked to make sure it is okay. Last year, I installed the Osram SilverStars in Deb's Subie Foz and, concurrently, disabled the DRL module on the car. After inspecting the electrical system, the only thing that the dealer gives me as an option is to use a Honda bulb instead of a third party bulb. voltage spikes when you turn off the ignition. The. It may also be hte bulb choice as mentioned. I’ve been. I have also a 2005 Honda CR-V. This certainly could shed some light (so to speak) on the situation of BMW motorcycle bulbs burning out so frequently. Certainly the lighting on my RT is better than on any previous bike I've owned, but my gsxr runs the same H7 low beam bulb as an RT, and it's still good after 65,000 miles. Passenger side headlight stopped working because the connector/socket had melted. This is ridiculous to have to replace the entire headlight assembly. This explains why the nature of the headlight … I actually thought I was going crazy when I replaced about 10 passenger side bulbs because the lowbeam kept burning out since 2004. The opposite filament changes are made to create, the "Plus" (+30, +50, +80, +90) or Osram "Hyper" type bulbs: Lifespan is. Replacing the entire assembly can cost over $1,400 per light. A typical car when crusing at even 45mph, will require at least 10-15HP. FYI - The difference in the SS's vs Stock bulb lighting is VERY noticeable! Now we're looking at between 80 and 324, watts...definitely not trivial in terms of fuel burned and pollution, -Having the taillamps on during the day significantly reduces the visual, contrast between the brake lamps being on and their being off. same time, or one at a time? 2003 Honda Accord. There is also the issue of high beam bulb, envelope blackening due to deposited tungsten -- halogen headlamp bulbs, operated significantly below their rated voltage don't self-clean as they, do when operated at full power, so the bulb glass blackens. It's worth noting that the lumen differences are not the extent of the, performance differences. reduced, but the beam focus is better so seeing distance is longer. And here’s the kicker – because of the way Honda designed the headlight, if you want to replace the LEDs you need to replace the entire assembly. Which is good when you consider some owners have needed to have the same light replaced multiple times within the warranty period. And I used the headlights frequently, but not all the time. A good low-beam light pattern is, asymmetrical, directing most of the light downward-rightward with only, minimal light towards upward-leftward and eye-level leftward lateral, angles (RH-traffic countries)...which means it's an ineffective DRL. The long-life version of that same kind of, headlamp bulb produces 1460 lumens over a lifespan of 1200 hours, and its, filament coil focus is such that the low beam reach is approximately 70, metres. Twisting the male connecting plug just a bit fixes that. While there's no guarantee it affects all the listed model years, most years within a generation share the same parts, manufacturing processes, and problems. The filament changes required to make a, long-life bulb tend to reduce the beam focus, which shortens seeing, distance. If the bulb is allowed to jiggle, either with a loose headlamp, or by being held loosly IN the headlamp, it will burn out quickly. Reports indicate failures of the Accord’s DLR as early as 10,000 miles. The 10 Watt bulbs in most directional signals offers very poor visibiltiy for vehciles. The takeaway message here is that, even if all the filaments put out exactly the same amount of light — the, same lumens from a long life, a +30, a +50, a regular, an, ultralong-life, etc. Hello just wondering if anyone else has had this problem. If the axial intensity, is reduced enough to control glare properly, the cone of illumination, narrows so much that there is essentially no light from the DRL at angles, off axis. Needs to recall and repair this mistake for free. My problem was with the headlight switch on my Dodge. The numbers here are a composite of values applicable to the. There are so many vibrations in the 2015-2016 CR-V, particularly at low speed or idle, that owners are starting to get sick. OTOH, he has lots of great data on bulb construction and differences in each brand and type. A, proper DRL puts light in those upward & lateral leftward angles (more, technically, a proper DRL has a symmetrical light pattern in the general, shape of a horizontal oval or oblong centred about the DRL's axis). Plus-30 High Efficacy (CPI BrightLight, Osram Super, Sylvania. Three problems related to headlights have been reported for the 2015 Honda Accord. The common solution is to mechanically move the HID bulb back and forth between the low and high beam focal points, which is hokey, and still doesn't resolve the issue of the arc being a different shape than the filament and the lack of low-beam shielding (which results in a lot of light going into the high beam along with the low beam and causing glare). … Major class action law firms use this data when researching cases. There are NO legitimate or safe HID bulb retrofits for halogen headlamps. They should not be popping like popcorn or anything. John Ranalletta, October 20, 2009 in Riders Discuss Other Topics. If you don't get any closer to a solution, try another angle. Honda CR-V headlight keeps blowing. Blue or EuroBlue, Sylvania Silverstar or Silverstar Ultra, also PIAA. Any moisture in the headlight assembly will do the same. the one continuing issue I have is the headlight low beam bulbs blowing out every 6 to 12 months. Personally, the OEM bulbs in my Corolla lasted 3 years and 40,000 miles and it had DRL's. I seem to be burning out headlights more then one would expect. This presents, -Having the parkers, markers and tails on during the day adds between 20, and 84 watts' power consumption to the 60 to 240 watts' power consumption, of a headlamp-based DRL system. Maybe itâs personal preference, but Iâll admit the lights do look nice. Main causes of headlight bulbs blowing The type of bulb. That is a common problem with some CT110's. The noise and burning smell is most likely from the alternator. Average repair cost is $760 at 42,700 miles. Nothing worked but the horn. Daniel's communications are interesting to me and I thought to others here as well. Whatever the reason, here's a handful of things you can do to make sure it gets the attention it deserves. I'm never going back to Colorado...bulbs burn out there...cost me at least $10.00... > While I've added electrical bits to each of the motorcycles I've owned e.g. My fuses are good, I'm getting the same voltage readin … read more I bought a new bulb and installed it and my headlight still didnt work. For retrofit purposes, the best, implementation is the full-time operation of the front directional, signals (except, of course, when they are operating as signals). I know this is an old post, but my 02altima's passenger headlight keeps burning! We still haven't gotten to which bulbs to select for your headlamps! None of this sounds efficient or cost-effective. Do both die at the. Have not fixed yet but apparently this issue has been recalled on 2003 Honda Pilots, but not on 2005, despite the numerous occurrences & complaints. Might not do anything to your lights, but shoot, give it a try if nothing else works. A friend who works as a mechanic for an auto electrical specialty shop suggested I twist the connectors "just a little bit" before installation. . Headlights are vital as they help us to drive during the night. They need to come on sooner. in on the problem, then we can make a wise bulb choice. The 9th and 10th generation Accord have a strip of LED lights running along the bottom side of the headlight assemblies that serve a dual purpose. Lifespan is given as Tc, the hour. No hacking required. combines extremely high output with nice long life - stay tuned on that one. Every year I have to replace both low beam bulbs. > replacing with the stock, big-box auto store Sylvannias. Reports indicate failures of the Accordâs DLR as early as 10,000 miles. These are exceptionally, warranty-friendly and conducive to use as DRLs due to their long life, but, their output and luminance are low and the beam focus (and resultant, produce is poor, due to the filament modifications made to get extra long, life out of them. Normally, when the headlights are used more often, chances are they will also burn out easily. I'd buy a new one about every year. it's not so much that the wavelength of the light is different, but that the light source is at a different location and shape for halogen bulbs and HID retrofits. Dude is right. If the lamps are switched on while the engine is being, started or stopped, that really hammers the filaments; the line voltage, dips and then spikes when the engine cranks and then fires, and the line. Before you take your car into the mechanic consider the following options: Don’t handle the bulb with your bare fingers. This has, been shown to worsen the speed and accuracy with which following drivers, OK, so what do we do if we want to have a headlamp-based DRL system, but, not run the parkers, markers or tails during the day, and we don't want to, install an expensive and troublesome automatic light control? System wattage in DRL mode ranges from 60 to 240 watts. HID bixenon works great in motorcycles and gives 3X the light. I DIDN'T DO THE WORK MYSELF I HAD A MECHANIC DO IT AND HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT'S UP. The FIRST thing I see when a motorcycle approaches is their headlight. My CR-V has a low intensity dimmed low beam for its' DRL's. You might also check to be sure the headlamps themselves are held frimly in place. 110 Watts is 0.15 HP. go the filaments. The fuel consumption from 300 watts is pretty minimal compared to the entire vehcile. Average repair cost is $50 at 105,600 miles. Flashing the lights with a "modulator, running the high beams, during the day, and running the low beams during the day, all common. Honda has released a series of videos explaining the issue and a technical service bulletin outlining potential solutions. Compounding this situation is the way the regulations are written, regarding illumination of a vehicle's parking, tail and marker bulbs with, DRLs. Plus-80/90 Mega High Efficacy (Philips Xtreme Power, Osram Night Breaker): Blue coated 'extra white' (CPI Bright Light Blue, Osram CoolBlue, Narva, Rangepower Blue, Philips BlueVision or CrystalVision, Tungsram Super. Better nighttime. The Center for Auto Safety (CAS) is a pro-consumer organization that researches auto safety issues & often compels the US government to do the right thing through lobbying & lawsuits. If there is moisture or water getting into the headlights, you will need to replace the headlight assemblies, seeing as they are almost impossible to reseal. But in contrast ot other vehciles on the road, such as in 4 lane roads, they reduce the vehciles visibility. Powered by Invision Community, Honda Accord headlights frequent burn out...expert advice, http://dastern.torque.net/Mods/DRL/DRL1.html. ... Good day i have the same trouble with my 2008 i was wondering if u found out what the problem was .any help would be awome … I think something else is going on there. This is the big problem with HID retrofits on H4 headlights - the H4 reflector is designed around two separate filaments in certain locations with certain orientations (and one of them is shielded), and it's difficult to duplicate that with an HID arc. The reflector is designed around having the light source at its focus, and if it isn't, the light isn't properly projected by the reflector. Move the hold-down wire back into place and reinstall the rubber seal over the back of the headlight assembly. It, really depends on how well you want to see at night and whether you're, put in the DRL module described above. Unless itâs a 2016-2018 Honda Accord weâre talking about, because those cars have defective LED daytime running lights that are costing all sorts of money to replace. Personally, I don't fully agree with his assesment. I think BMW bulbs burn out frequently, because BMW riders ride more miles than other motorcycles per year. The 2016 Honda Accord has 64 problems reported for daytime led lights burning out. > like to post your original email to the site for their edification. That is, until the entire strip (or half the strip, in some cases) goes out for no reason. three options permitted by the applicable regulations: -Run the low beams at reduced intensity (which aggravates the, already poor DRL performance of low beam headlamps as described above), -Run the high beams at reduced intensity (which makes DRLs of, limited effectiveness and high glare, as described above), -Run the high and low beams in series with one another (which, makes fairly effective DRLs on some kinds of headlamp systems, but is very, Do yourself (and your wallet) a large favor: implement proper daytime, running lights on your car. But, lifespan is lengthened. Do you run your headlights during the daytime? John Paul, AAA Northeast's Car Doctor, answers a question from a reader whose vehicle's low-beam headlight bulbs have been burning out frequently. We'll see how that goes. The bulbs on my '02 Odyssey or original but my '03 Accord is on its second pair (the second one burrned out within a week of the first). First off, I, appreciate and agree with the intent behind your full-time use of, headlamps, but it's not a very good way to accomplish what you're trying. If your bulbs burn out, why not just solve the problem and quit using filament incandescent bubls. Because most of the safety benefit from DRLs under North, American conditions is in avoiding angular collisions rather than, head-ons, this is significant. 01 honda civic headlight low beams keep burning out every 3 months or so, both at the same time, when I start my car, they're dark. The 2005 Honda CR-V has 11 problems reported for headlights burn out frequently. Any other bulbs on the car failing early? Granted one of my ballasts burned out a while back but that's another situation all together. I asked Daniel if I could post this. > Interesting and useful web site. 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